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Billy Szeto 二梅花會員


註冊時間: 2007-07-07 文章: 195 來自: 徙置區 的 Dobermann 1800 Master Points
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發表於: 星期四 七月 12, 2007 1:36 pm 文章主題: bidding sequence after stayman |
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Practice hands with my students a couple of days ago. You are third seat and hold the following hand:
S 10xxx H A10xx D AJxxx C -----
The bidding goes:
1NT (15-17) - 2C ; 2H - ???
Actually partner holds:
S Ax H KQJx D KQxx C 10xx
6H is cold (even 7H with good breaks). How to discover such kind of "天仙配" hands? |
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David CC Ng 二無王會員

註冊時間: 2007-01-09 文章: 364 來自: Hong Kong 11732 Master Points
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發表於: 星期四 七月 12, 2007 1:49 pm 文章主題: Re: bidding sequence after stayman |
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Methodology
After Stayman,
(1) Responder jump bid of 3 over 2 shows unknown singleton/void with 4+ FIT.
Opener relays with 3NT and Responder can show his shortness
4 /4 /4 = S/V in / / respectively (or in other order)
(2) Responder bids another Major (3 ) over 2 shows unknown singleton/void with 4+ FIT.
Opener relays with 3 and Responder can show his shortness
3NT/4 /4 = S/V in / / respectively (or in other order)
The rationale is that after locating FIT in one Major, it is not necessary to inform Opener another Major. As a result, the Other Major (OM) can be deployed to show shortness.
(Ref: Aces Scientific by Bobby Goldman)
Worth the Try?
Responder's hand: 9 HCP with 5-card suit and a void, 4 Controls
The weapon is in the arsenal. Nevertheless, does the Responder's hand strong enough to try for slam?
N.B. Should not bid 7 as the grand slam is against the odds.
David CC Ng |
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Alan Sze 五紅心會員

註冊時間: 2006-11-22 文章: 1051 來自: Hong Kong 6314 Master Points
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發表於: 星期四 七月 12, 2007 4:11 pm 文章主題: Re: bidding sequence after stayman |
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| Billy Szeto 寫到: | Practice hands with my students a couple of days ago. You are third seat and hold the following hand:
S 10xxx H A10xx D AJxxx C -----
The bidding goes:
1NT (15-17) - 2C ; 2H - ???
Actually partner holds:
S Ax H KQJx D KQxx C 10xx
6H is cold (even 7H with good breaks). How to discover such kind of "天仙配" hands? |
I personally would try SPL 4 , if it is available.
Or I would try the tools of showing 44(14) or 44(05), by responding to 1NT. That is,
1NT 2NT
3 3NT
4 4
4NT 5
6
2NT = relay to 3 , either weak or 44(14)/44(05);
3 = yes sir;
3NT = short ;
4 = slam interest in either one of the 3 suits;
4 = suit?? or cue??;
4NT = RKC in supposingly;
5 = 2KC;
6 = to play; _________________ Alan B...
PABF: Youth: 1997 (Hong Kong); Open: 2001 (Singapore); 2005 (Korea - Seoul); 2006 (China - Shanghai); 2007 (Indonesia - Bandung); Olympiad: 2000 (Netherlands - Maastricht); 2004 (Turkey - Istanbul); World Mind Sports Games: 2008 (Beijing - China); Bermuda Bowl: 2001 (France - Paris); |
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David CC Ng 二無王會員

註冊時間: 2007-01-09 文章: 364 來自: Hong Kong 11732 Master Points
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發表於: 星期四 七月 12, 2007 5:40 pm 文章主題: |
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Alan Sze also introduces his method of showing the shortage. He is in the opinion that the Responder's hand being strong enough to kick-off the splintering sequence, whatever it is.
My view: Exchange the Queen for the Jack, I may initiate the splintering sequence. I am a little bid 'chicken' for the hand quoted by Billy Szeto. What I worry being that Partner may overbid his hand once he finds little wastage in (a suitable hand but not such a perfect hand)
David CC Ng |
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Tiffany Tse 二無王會員

註冊時間: 2006-12-24 文章: 396
2361 Master Points
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發表於: 星期五 七月 13, 2007 8:21 am 文章主題: Re: bidding sequence after stayman |
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| David CC Ng 寫到: | Methodology
After Stayman,
(1) Responder jump bid of 3 over 2 shows unknown singleton/void with 4+ FIT.
Opener relays with 3NT and Responder can show his shortness
4 /4 /4 = S/V in / / respectively (or in other order)
(2) Responder bids another Major (3 ) over 2 shows unknown singleton/void with 4+ FIT.
Opener relays with 3 and Responder can show his shortness
3NT/4 /4 = S/V in / / respectively (or in other order)
The rationale is that after locating FIT in one Major, it is not necessary to inform Opener another Major. As a result, the Other Major (OM) can be deployed to show shortness.
(Ref: Aces Scientific by Bobby Goldman)
Worth the Try?
Responder's hand: 9 HCP with 5-card suit and a void, 4 Controls
The weapon is in the arsenal. Nevertheless, does the Responder's hand strong enough to try for slam?
N.B. Should not bid 7 as the grand slam is against the odds.
David CC Ng |
just out of curiosity in knowing more
so what do you play for the sequence
1N - 2C
2H - 4C? _________________ 我要發脾四! |
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David CC Ng 二無王會員

註冊時間: 2007-01-09 文章: 364 來自: Hong Kong 11732 Master Points
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發表於: 星期五 七月 13, 2007 10:57 am 文章主題: |
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1NT-2 (1)
2 -4
1NT-2 (2)
2 -4
In both sequences (1) & (2), 4 by Responder is Gerber or RKC (select your own favor version).
1NT-2 (3)
2 -4NT
1NT-2 (4)
2 -4NT
In both sequences (3) & (4), 4NT by Responder is Quantitative Raise to 6NT; indicating 4-card in another Major. The HCP strength held by the Responder is equivalent to that of 1NT-4NT.
David CC Ng |
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Jacky Ip 二紅心會員


註冊時間: 2006-11-15 文章: 276
2209 Master Points
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發表於: 星期六 七月 14, 2007 9:16 pm 文章主題: |
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In Hardy 2/1
1N-2
2M-
4 =RKC
4 =Balance invite to slam with 4-card fit
4N = invite 6N with 4-card in other Major
3oM=Splinter somewhere
and now, I don't play stayman, so cannot answer this question  |
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William Yip 一梅花會員

註冊時間: 2010-07-28 文章: 1
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發表於: 星期四 七月 29, 2010 8:55 pm 文章主題: |
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| 4C for spinter with heart fit |
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Alan Sze 五紅心會員

註冊時間: 2006-11-22 文章: 1051 來自: Hong Kong 6314 Master Points
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發表於: 星期五 七月 30, 2010 1:41 pm 文章主題: Re: bidding sequence after stayman |
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| David CC Ng 寫到: |
(2) Responder bids another Major (3 ) over 2 shows unknown singleton/void with 4+ FIT.
Opener relays with 3 and Responder can show his shortness
3NT/4 /4 = S/V in / / respectively (or in other order)
The rationale is that after locating FIT in one Major, it is not necessary to inform Opener another Major. As a result, the Other Major (OM) can be deployed to show shortness.
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By the way, this could be improved after the 3 relay, to distinguish void or singleton:
3NT = void in somewhere
4 / / = singleton in / / respectively
the 4 after 3NT asking for which void:
4 / / = void in / / respectively _________________ Alan B...
PABF: Youth: 1997 (Hong Kong); Open: 2001 (Singapore); 2005 (Korea - Seoul); 2006 (China - Shanghai); 2007 (Indonesia - Bandung); Olympiad: 2000 (Netherlands - Maastricht); 2004 (Turkey - Istanbul); World Mind Sports Games: 2008 (Beijing - China); Bermuda Bowl: 2001 (France - Paris); |
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